Effects of years of vaping but behind the times using this addicted device?

I mostly saw people in a public places uses this small thing that produce satisfaction of their needs, and I have a question for my 1 friend that addicted to this device. What are the possibilities of vaping estimated 7 years of using to his body. He is skinny and not a fan of a healthy food like vegan.

Edited by Chris Cosgrove, 20 December 2023 - 05:16 AM.
Moved from Introductions to General Chat

People who voluntarily engage in poisonous substance abuse have made their decision. To wring your heart out trying to help these people will only ruin your own emotional health. They have made their decision and will die a painful death happy with it.

Everybody does what he wants to do.

Here are a few authoritative resources:

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/about-e-cigarettes.html

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/Quick-Facts-on-the-Risks-of-E-cigarettes-for-Kids-Teens-and-Young-Adults.html

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/index.htm

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/features/back-to-school/index.html

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/index.htm

The two base chemicals for vaping are considered none-toxic when ingested. However, I don't know of any studies when these chemicals are heated to constitute the "smoke", and long term presence in lungs. What is harmful is other chemicals added to the mix. A cigarette smoker can benefit by vaping instead of smoking because the tobaco combustion is full of toxic chemicals that vaping doesn't provides. The problem is that most smokers do both activities, vaping and smoking, as well as consuming other substances. As ranchhand_ says, people make their own decision, and there's nothing we can do about it.

I used to be a cigarette smoker but switched to vaping around seven years ago.

 

The differences between the two for your health are drastic to say the least, no more 'smokers cough', no more getting short of breath, etc.
I am definitely much healthier for making the switch.

 

The two oils used in vaping are not addictive in themselves, it's the nicotine that is added that is the addictive content.

You can buy e-liquid without any nicotine added, but usually only online, shops generally sell it with different levels of added nicotine.

 

Whilst the long term effect of vaping are not yet known the one thing that is definite is that it is not as harmful for your lungs and heart as cigarettes are.

 

Most of the medical concern about vaping these days is over the nicotine content, or regarding 'counterfeit' vaping liquid, produced who knows where, that may contain toxic substances or even heavy metals.
Then there are those who will add drugs to their liquid, similar to adding to a cigarette and smoking it or using a bong. You are never going to stop drug use.

There's also a set of idiots who will try to vape cooking oil or other oils, there's not much you can do about such nutters either.

 

One of the biggest concers at the moment is the rise in the sale and use of 'disposabe' vapes.
These are thrown away after a couple of days which is causing a growing mountain of plastic and battery waste

 

PS. You may have heard of 'Popcorn Lung' in relation to vaping, and whilst that can be caused by vaping cooking oils, or marijuana (CBD oil), the condition gets it name from workers at popcorn factories who used to breathe in the oil vapour off the popcorn. (So should we ban popcorn?)
The main chemical responsible for popcorn lung is diacetyl, there are others such asacetaldehyde in  marijuana.
Ddiacetyl is banned in vaping liquid in Europe, but may still be in liquids produced in the US or elsewhere.

Edited by Nukecad, 21 December 2023 - 08:56 AM.

Human lungs were designed to inhale one substance: oxygen. (Yes, of course "air" contains more than just oxygen. I am over-simplifying to emphasize a physiologic fact.)

 

e-cigarettes were originally developed to aid tobacco smokers in quitting, with the assumption that vaping was less harmful, toxic and poisonous than tobacco. Needless to say, that is no longer their primary use. And it has become an extremely profitable business.

 

A basic internet search (and especially a more focused search of (even open-access) medical literature) will show that there are indeed both short-term and long-term health effects of vaping, with or without THC and other recreational drugs.

 

For adults, the decision to vape is one's choice. For children and youth below the age of consent, it is more complicated.

 

Respectfully submitted, with no intent of being dragged down the proverbial forum rabbit hole 

 

Cheers

In my humble opinion, from observation, vaping is simply a lesser poison that became socially acceptable because it wasn't as harmful as tobacco.

 

I am an ex-smoker.

Got into the habit in high school when it was socially acceptable.

Gave it up 52 years ago.

The advertising anti-tobacco campaigns were convincing, for me.

 

With the general acceptance of the legal abuse of marijuana, it's become difficult to effectively criticize many addictive behaviors.

 

There's a recent article in the news about betel nut addiction.

Cancerous. And yet millions of people chew them to get 'mellow'.

 

People do what ever they damn well please.

The feel good mentality ...at any cost.

 

 

 

Nicotine is just one of the many stimulants that  people can be addicted to; caffeine, sugar,  alcohol, (also cocaine, opium, marijuana, etc.) and some other dopamine enhancers. Anything for an extra burst in our boring day.

 

Try getting everyone to stop drinking alcohol and then see how far that goes with everyone - it won't happen, even if the booze is slowly killing them or destroying their lives (or the lives around them).

Or get them to give up coffee, tea, power drinks, sugar and sweets (even honey) or even chocolate.

Even eating carrots can be addictive - eat just  one carrot a day for 30 days and then the addiction for the beta carotene is very strong.

 

In the end ultimately it is the way of the world.

Besides the big business and gov't won't allow our addictions or bad habits to ever stop - it involves too much profit to be made and keeping control (keeping people enslaved).

Edited by 0lds0d, 21 December 2023 - 11:57 AM.

Just pointing out that the absence of deaths attributed to e-sigs noted in the video are wrong, at least for the US.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

Even eating carrots can be addictive - eat just  one carrot a day for 30 days and then the addiction for the beta carotene is very strong.

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Euh?  Will eating 2 carrots a day, five days a week create the addiction too?   Because during the weekend, I crave PIZZA with bacon!   
 
This supposedly beta carotene addiction is not that efficient to improve my eyesight too.  Or is that yet another grandma hack with no scientific basis?

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"Because during the weekend, I crave PIZZA with bacon! "

 

Maybe it is your cheese addiction found in the pizza - the casein that is in cheese acts much like other drugs. LOL

 

"When you digest casein, your body breaks it down into smaller compounds called casomorphins...

Just pointing out that the absence of deaths attributed to e-sigs noted in the video are wrong, at least for the US.

 

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-disease.html

 

These were (as far as I can tell) exclusively in the US and were traced to vitamin E acetate being used as a carrier for cannabis oil in illicitly produced cartridges. Vaping nicotine with propylene glycol and glycerol does not have this effect.

Try getting everyone to stop drinking alcohol and then see how far that goes with everyone

Mmmm, didn't the USA try that just over a hundred years ago?
I believe it was an experiment that went very well and nobody in the US has had an alcholic drink since.

Merry Christmas everyone - and enjoy some wine/beer with your christmas meal.

Edited by Nukecad, 23 December 2023 - 02:18 PM.

To all the drinkers out here and there - CHEERS! or salut or skoal or prost or what ever.

 

Also... everyone have a Merry Christmas too! And a Happy New Year!