Petition demands Windows 10 live on past 2025
I urge everyone to sign this petition!
Posted 31 October 2023 - 02:24 PM
If I don't reply right away it's because I'm waiting for Windows 10 to Update.
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Posted 31 October 2023 - 03:25 PM
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Posted 31 October 2023 - 04:45 PM
It will be like what happened to XP. People will run Windows 10 for years even if they don't get security updates.
Posted 31 October 2023 - 06:23 PM
I can honestly say that I see no problem with Microsoft issuing a new product, every few years.
After all we don't start going around telling Ford not to create a new model. And small businesses find it profitable to manufacture spare parts for many years after manufacture ceases.
And don't tell me that the old model stops working. It keeps working, however with Windows it's no longer safe on the Internet and no one has yet suggested paying Microsoft a fee to carry on providing updates.
Oh, hang on, they do. But it's mainly Governments and Big Business. I don't know how much the UK's NHS pays Microsoft to keep its Windows 95 PCs safe - but I'll bet it's not peanuts.
Posted 01 November 2023 - 08:31 AM
We can sign all the petitions we want until we get writers cramp, it won't make any difference.
This is one of the most ignorant types of comments I've even heard. If everyone thought this way corporations would walk all over the public and NOTHING would ever change. For starters, have you ever heard of "E-Waste", or "Right to repair", these things are changing all over the world, fortunately there are lots of people that don't think like you.
If I don't reply right away it's because I'm waiting for Windows 10 to Update.
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 08:36 AM
I can honestly say that I see no problem with Microsoft issuing a new product, every few years.
After all we don't start going around telling Ford not to create a new model. And small businesses find it profitable to manufacture spare parts for many years after manufacture ceases.
I think you've completely missed the point Eddie? We've never seen this kind of precedence in the history of MS, making so many computers useless for banking and such, and therefore turn them into E-Waste. After all, you can still run Windows 10 on old XP Machines with some caveats.
If I don't reply right away it's because I'm waiting for Windows 10 to Update.
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 08:47 AM
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Posted 01 November 2023 - 08:58 AM
The reality is things are changing in a better direction because of people like the ones in the link I provided, that is FACT, not "idealism"
Most people don't need TPM, it's a crock! It's like all the fear monger journalist posting about malware that a home user will never see in their lifetime, usually malware that needs the actor to be on the users computer to achieve.
Edited by pcpunk, 01 November 2023 - 09:02 AM.
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Posted 08 November 2023 - 03:37 AM
I think I am skipping w11 for now as I did with WinVista. If 12 turns out to be awful, then I will be switching to Linux.
Posted 08 November 2023 - 08:21 AM
Can you provide a direct link for the Windows 10 petition. Please.
Proverbs 14:29
Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:07 AM
I agree with John's assessment of what will take place.
It's well understood by all of us...that Microsoft is a commercial entity. Commercial entities create/manufacture "new products" as a way of ensuring future revenue streams...making money is what every commercial entity is about and the sale to the public happens every day of our lives. Entities like Apple would be my classic illustration of the fact that new products may not necessarily reflect anything "new", other than the pricing and the pap that is served up to customers...to keep them buying these "new products" where there may be no advantage to users when analyzing the use of such versus the "old products".
IMO, MS did a service to all with various versions of Windows. By turning people who had no clue or interest into purchasers/users of PCs...the world society has benefitted. As time wears on, that benefit is taken for granted and users continue along with habitual patterns of use...with older versions of products...until something occurs to make customers believe that there are gains to be had by moving to updated versions that may, in fact, update nonessential aspects of existing products. I believe that MS has reached the point with Windows...where updated versions of Windows...reach out for esoteric considerations...to keep that product line/stream of revenues...rolling in.
I don't blame or begrudge them for doing this...it's a standard business practice that permeates every aspect of our daily lives. But, just as Apple customers choose to be Apple customers that probably has no foundation in reality...MS customers have the right to believe/decide that...we exist to be more than loyal customers who await the next purchase of whatever it is that MS and every other business entity...intends to sell to those who are willing customers, if not willing users.
I believe that Windows 7 is the only version of Windows that I need today...it's an operating system that is superior to previous versions and it's faults could be overcome forever with supported security updates. MS did not provide a plan for continuing the use of Win 7 forever...because it's not in the best interests of ANY business entity...to provide products to customers...which do not produce...continuing revenue streams. That's what business is...catering to customer whims and erroneous impressions...while looking at the next 5-year plan and manufacturing a strategy to keep those revenues coming in consistently.
There is no mandate for anyone who wants to use something other than the most current version of MS products...to set their hair on fire and rush out to buy, install, use...any of the MS products. There is nothing nefarious about basic business strategy.
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Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:27 AM
"Most people don't need TPM, it's a crock!"
True for home users. Not for business or corporate. But Windows is basically a business model, not designed specifically for home or end users, and so we ended up with the TPM whether we want it or not.
Would have been nice to be able to do a custom install and during the install be given the option to disable the TPM requirement for home users. And thus allow the older hardware users to install the new Windows 11.
As for the much older CPU compatibility and Windows 11, these old models probably don't have the full capability to handle the newer OS despite some hacking the installation anyways.
Proverbs 14:29
Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:42 AM
"It will be like what happened to XP. People will run Windows 10 for years even if they don't get security updates."
Until software such as web browsers no longer support the out dated OS. Then it's no longer an internet capable machine and becomes just for secondary uses.
Proverbs 14:29
Posted 08 November 2023 - 09:47 AM
Can you provide a direct link for the Windows 10 petition. Please.
Tell Microsoft: Don’t leave millions of computers behind
If I don't reply right away it's because I'm waiting for Windows 10 to Update.
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