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This YouTuber thinks that Linux is going to become harder to install.


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#1 SuperSapien64

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 02:17 PM

I watched this video and thought well maybe but I don't know this sounds kinda suspicious.

 

 

 

Linux is CRUCIAL, even if you don't use it. And it's being attacked....

 

 

 

 

Please share your thoughts.


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Posted 14 January 2024 - 03:34 PM

I don't think Europe would let Microsoft get away with being the sole OS on a computer. Also, don't many of the larger distros already support SecureBoot using a Shim Bootloader. It would be a cold day in hell before I would pay a monthly fee to run an OS.

 

https://linuxsecurity.com/news/cryptography/insiders-guide-to-secure-boot



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Posted 14 January 2024 - 03:46 PM

Please share your thoughts.

My first reaction was that it is more Anti-Microsoft than Pro-Linux.

 

After thinking about it for a minute, I concluded that he was just venting over a frustrating installation of Linux on an unfamiliar computer.

 

Been there, seen it, done it, got the T-Shirt!  :rolleyes:

 

Tuppence,

 

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 04:02 PM

Lol youtube is all I can say.

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 07:12 PM

To a certain extent, I echo Dan's sentiment.....if you get all your news from the 'net - and YT in particular! - you will NEVER want for moonshine. But I can see moves like this coming (shades of Steve Ballmer, methinks - the "Linux is a cancer" saga back in 2001!  :P )
 
Although Nadella has pretty much welcomed Linux with open arms, I still say the old chestnut about M$ holds true even today:-
 

Definition of Windows:-
 
Windows; “32 bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16 bit patch to an 8 bit operating system originally coded for a 4 bit microprocessor, written by a 2 bit company, that can't stand 1 bit of competition.”


Perhaps not so relevant today, but the company is still a behemoth that tries to steamroller anyone or anything that gets in its way, and invariably responds with the use of overwhelming legal force....

 

(*shrug...*)

 

 

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 07:18 PM

All good points. And not mention hasn't gotten easier to install Linux over the last few years?



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Posted 14 January 2024 - 07:31 PM

If this old minter can install arch via install wiki then its easy to install Linux.

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Posted 14 January 2024 - 09:03 PM

Hello Microcrud

 

Its my PC, I paid for it and I will run it any way I see fit, If you want to tell me what OS to use and how make sure you paid for the PC

 

MS Windows................"x86_64 is the 64-bit extension of a 32-bit extension of a 40-year-old 16-bit ISA designed to be source-compatible with a 50-year-old 8-bit ISA written on a 4 bit processor by a company that cant stand 1 bit of competition


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Posted 15 January 2024 - 09:44 AM

I think the guy is spot-on.

Any corporation, double-especially one publicly held (eg: MS) has one goal only and no other. Profit. Do what it takes to stay on top, and squeeze as much profit any way you can. Some corps. have even gone to illegal means to do that. Corporations have one philosophy: "more".

MS is a monopoly, that cannot be successfully denied. Monopolys are not supposed to exist, at least in this country. So why hasn't anyone in government done anything about it? Power. If MS stopped supporting Windows there would be major earthquakes throughout the world. Even the US government would be in trouble. Millions of machines in this country alone run Windows.

I don't think MS is nervous about Linux. Why should an elephant worry about a fly?

And, yes, MS is definitely working toward two thing, no question in my mind:

#1: Rental system setup. Profits would blow through the ceiling and into the stratosphere.

#2: Total dependency on MS system hardware. I see the day coming when the user will have one (1) monitor and one (1) keyboard & mouse and one (1) internet connection to MS's cloud. Windows on the monitor will be running from the MS cloud (aka their servers) totally. No need for a box computer anymore, no need for HDDs or SSDs, Windows and all your software and data will run 24/7 from MS servers, all the user does is log in.

That's how I see it, anyway. All I do is logically extend the direction MS is already going in.


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Posted 15 January 2024 - 10:19 AM

There is no easy way to manage a 100% linux enterprise because there is no active directory type tool hense why the governments of the world can't do anything to Microsoft.

Also it isn't monopoly you have choices like MacOS, The Unix Operating System family, The Linux Family, and ChromeOS. A monopoly means there is no choice or competition.

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Posted 16 January 2024 - 11:00 AM

You are speaking legally; I am speaking practicality. Apple is no serious threat to MSoft. How many companies have apple systems installed? Extremely few. Apple's big bucks is now coming from cell technology and laptops for individuals. Walk through any Apple store and you will see that.

Apple is big in graphics apps, no question. But that is small potatoes to the number of international corporations that have Windows systems.

A man with Apple experience is looking for a job in the business world, and competes against a man with MCSE and 15 years experience, who is going to get the job?

 

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Posted 16 January 2024 - 02:26 PM

You are speaking legally; I am speaking practicality. Apple is no serious threat to MSoft. How many companies have apple systems installed? Extremely few. Apple's big bucks is now coming from cell technology and laptops for individuals. Walk through any Apple store and you will see that.

Apple is big in graphics apps, no question. But that is small potatoes to the number of international corporations that have Windows systems.

A man with Apple experience is looking for a job in the business world, and competes against a man with MCSE and 15 years experience, who is going to get the job?

 

edit: spelling correction

If I remember correctly a lot of Hollywood movie studios use Linux to render their movies. So man I think Linux might be safe at least for now. But on the other hand The World Economic Forum has said in the past by 2030 we all will own nothing and we'll all be happy (in other words you better be happy or else we'll lock you away) and M$ Windows 12 sounds like might be a dystopian AI cloud powered nightmare.



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Posted 16 January 2024 - 02:34 PM

A vast majority of the apple iPhone market are the government agencies within the United States and elsewhere. Only a select few use android based Google phones.

What a civilian spends on a single phone or laptop is small change compared to the price the government or a company spends on one.

Also Microsoft bailed Apple out in the late 90s when they gave Apple 40 million to avoid bankruptsy.

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Posted 16 January 2024 - 09:08 PM

Yeah, they did that with Chrysler Corp. (lee Idacoca) and GM also (I think). I remember the big flap when the GM bigwigs went to Washington to beg for money and they all flew in their corporate jets and were picked up at the airport in limos. 


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Posted 29 January 2024 - 09:01 PM

I wouldn't worry about it. The first thing he got wrong is what Linux is. Linux is a kernel, not an operating system. All the rest he says is just his opinion and all gloom and doom scare tactics. I have never seen a motherboard that you can't disable secure boot and even it is true there are some Linux distors that work with secure boot enabled. Linux is here to stay and Mocro$oft can stick it where the sun doesn't shine.






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