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Please help: Intel Core i9-11900KF with a H510M H V2 motherboard


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#1 Alex1874

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 10:09 AM

Hello! I just bought a new computer and I'm a bit worried that this motherboard is not suited for my processor: Intel Core i9-11900KF (64 GB RAM) or for my graphics card: RTX 3060 (12GB RAM).

 

I bough this computer so I could do 3D sculpting and animation in Blender, and for gaming; and when I say gaming I mean: Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2, Dead Space Remake, Resident Evil 4 Remake, etc.

 

I was expecting a B560 motherboard, which from what I've read, would be much better suited for an I7-11700K processor (these were the specifications of the computer I wanted to buy), but the computer I received has a a different motherboard and this different processor.

 

I tried talking to the seller I bought it from, telling him the H510M H is a weaker motherboard compared to the B560 but he cut me short saying I'm mistaken, that the difference between them is negligible and I shouldn't worry.

I'm not that tech savy but from what I've read, wouldn't a H510M H motherboard hamper performance on an I9-119KF and a RTX 3060? Wouldn't it hamper perfomance on a i7 - 11700K as well?


Edited by Alex1874, 21 February 2024 - 01:12 PM.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 11:06 AM

Such an Intel k spec CPU should be paired with a Z chipset motherboard, the other chipsets are of lower spec and do not offer the same OCing ability as the Z chipset.

 

KF chips should also be avoided due to their lack of on die video.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:00 PM

The board is OK if not overclocking as PhillPower2 has already said in the above post. For the most part.

The graphic card should be OK with the board.

 

VRAM is a consideration for both capacity and cooling as these are often lower on the cheaper boards vs the higher end boards.

No overclocking as already said too.

The Z boards may offer more PCIe expansion slot and more NVMe slots or more USB ports and more connectivity.

Other than that, the cheaper boards are usually OK.  

 

However, personally I would prefer the B560 over the B510 as it is a better board, especially for a i9. But a Z series would be the better - especially if going with the latest or cutting edge hardware.

 

As for the i7, it will be the same board performance as actual performance does come from the CPU and not as so much from the board itself. 

It wouldn't hamper performance necessarily, unless the board is getting very hot - good case cooling is important in any gaming desktop.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:05 PM

"However, personally I would prefer the B560 over the B510". 

I didn't get a B510, I got a H510M H V2. With a i9-11900kf processor. Instead of a B560 with a i7-11700k, as was listed in the description of the system when I bought it.

 

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:11 PM

I'm sorry if this is a stupid question, I don't really have any technical knowledge apart from the bits that I"ve been reading in the last few days, but what is "lack of on die video" and why is it important?

I tried looking it up but I'm confused.

 

Also, let's say I'm not going to overclock. So leaving that aside, would a a H510M H V2 motherboard slow down an i9-11900k and a RTX 3060? For 3d rendering, complex scenes and characters. And for gaming.



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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:13 PM

Sorry, there was a mistake in my original post, it said B5260. I meant B560.



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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:17 PM

It's the same board. One is a generic label and the other is a vendor's (Gigabyte) product description of that model of a B510.

 

The seller should be honest, and  NOT do a switch on the product he is selling. You should be getting exactly what you paid for despite the fact you got a more expensive CPU out of the purchase.

Ask for your money back and return the desktop, if you so inclined.

 

To be honest, you could build yourself a better performing desktop, with less older hardware and probably cheaper. 


About the same performance.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:24 PM

Intel's CPUs with the "F' means there is no discrete graphic available in the CPU. In other words without the dedicated graphics from the graphic cards, there will be no video output.

 

Intel's CPUs without the 'F" means there is a discrete graphic available in the CPU. In other words with the discrete graphic there can be a video output from the CPU via the video ports (HDMI or DP for examples) seen on the back of the motherboards I/O panel.

 

In either setup, use the dedicated graphic card for the video output. Use the discrete graphic only if there is no graphic card installed. But  for gaming or video/image work a dedicated graphic is always required.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:26 PM

If running a RTX 4090, then yes the board would be an issue.

For a RTX 3060, no not an issue.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:30 PM

what is "lack of on die video" and why is it important?

 

 


To add to that already advised by 0lds0d;

 

Modern MBs have video ports but they will only work if the processor has on die video, as an example, the i7-11700K that you mention in your OP has Intel UHD Graphics 750.

 
Reason why having this is important is twofold, you can set up a computer before adding an add on video card and the on die video is your back up should you ever have video card problems.

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 01:47 PM

"I'm sorry if this is a stupid question...."

 

There is no such thing as a stupid question. Any type of question is always good.

There are however stupid answers, but never stupid questions.


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 02:02 PM

"There is no such thing as a stupid question."  Thank you. And thank you PhillPower2 for your answers. I am still confused about what to do though and how to proceed.

So in your opinions, which configuration is better, in the long run (I don't plan on upgrading anything since this computer was already over my initial budget), for rendering complex 3D characters/scenes with Blender and games like Cyberpunk 2077, Dead Space Remake, Resident Evil4 Remake etc.

 

 

1st config: i7-11700k (64 GB RAM) with RTX 3060 (12 GB RAM) and a B560 motherboard

 

or

 

2nd config: i9-11900kf (64 GB RAM) with RTX 3060 (12 GB RAM) and a H510M H V2 motherboard


There are no other options I can choose from. The first config is the one I chose, the 2nd is the one I got.

 

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Posted 21 February 2024 - 02:10 PM

Is that 12GB  of RAM or 16GB? 

 

Using what display? 1080p or 1440p or 4K? This is critical to answer your question as the hardware requirements for those games is directly related to display resolutions.  


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Posted 21 February 2024 - 02:17 PM

12GB of RAM. And my display's resolution is 1920 x 1080. But it's an old monitor that I plan on replacing next year.



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Posted 21 February 2024 - 02:31 PM

OK short answer.

 

If only using Blender, then almost ANY hardware will be capable or sufficient for that program. 

If doing professional work, then better hardware is so much the better as it shortens the time involved. As opposed to lower end hardware that takes longer to do the same work.

The occasional work or hobby work with Blender, the hardware requirements is of no real importance.

In general, the more powerful CPU is the better for programs such as Photoshop, Premier, DaVinci Resolve, etc. And so is the memory - more is the better.

 

Gaming is a different situation. 

Gaming hardware it is more important have the best graphic card as possible. To run games, it is all about the graphic card and the display resolution. Not about the CPU as much.

And the games being played - RPG or shooter will have different requirements.

You seem to have a preference for RPG and often that means the best quality of the game as opposed to the fastest frames (and less quality) in shooters.

The higher the resolution, the more powerful the graphic cards has to be. And at 4K any CPU will be OK. 

 

You did look up the hardware requirements for all the games you want to play now and hopefully play in the future?


16GB is better, 12 Gb will barely get by. Especially for gaming. 


Upgrade to what resolution? Has a decent FPS and low latency, then why replace?


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