Petition demands Windows 10 live on past 2025

It would make more sense to have at least one "home" version of Windows 11 that doesn't have the high CPU and TPM requirements for use with perfectly good systems with older CPUs (7th-gen Intel or first-gen Ryzen). Petitioning Microsoft to continue supporting Windows 10 doesn't make much sense when the actual resource utilization isn't much different. If you bypass the CPU check, Windows 11 runs fine on anything that can run Windows 10 (aside from being incredibly annoying). This isn't like Vista. Yes, the RAM and storage requirements increased in 11, but that's just because Microsoft decided (after all these years) to make the requirements something that would almost be usable (I say "almost" because 4GB of RAM wasn't enough for web browsing five years ago) instead of being the absolute minimum needed to run the installer.

 

For now, bypassing the checks will work, but there are claims that the latest insider build did something to make the Rufus bypass stop working.

 

Now I see that pcpunk said basically the same thing in post 20.

Yeah, that would be good, whatever works to keep all those wonderful older pc's working like new.  All my old pc's work like they did new, and I love all of them and don't want new ones.  

It will be like what happened to XP. People will run Windows 10 for years even if they don't get security updates.

I have an old ASSUS running Windows 7 i missed the chance to get Windows 10 and am still using Windows 7, i understand millions maybe billions in China still use Windows 7, so as i did with Windows XT used it long after it was no longer being supported am sure Windows 10 will live on many years after it's not being supported.

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f i had been able to buy my new laptop with Win 10 instead of Win 11 i surly would have done it, all but one of my older programs that run on my Win 10 computers won't install and even the ones that do install won't then work with Win 11.

I even have a full copy of Microsoft Office 1999 it came with  my old Gateway Computer, it worked on everything i have until windows 11.

Note this system should never go out on the internet.  It is a risk to everyone else as well as your friends and family.

Should be running Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition : https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=299  Most like Windows. : https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_vera_cinnamon_whatsnew.php

FAQ's plus Minimum Requirements : https://linuxmint.com/faq.php

Less Command Line stuff than others. Check out the videos : https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+mint+cinnamon&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzu4eQ-8L8AhViAzQIHSZ2D8oQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1536&bih=671&dpr=1.25

It Comes with Software as well there is tons of Software available : Open Source : https://alternativeto.net/platform/linux/?license=opensource check free and ....

This is your best option and should consider it after what has been mentioned to you.

Note this system should never go out on the internet.  It is a risk to everyone else as well as your friends and family.

 

Should be running Linux Mint Cinnamon Edition : https://linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=299  Most like Windows. : https://www.linuxmint.com/rel_vera_cinnamon_whatsnew.php

FAQ's plus Minimum Requirements : https://linuxmint.com/faq.php

Less Command Line stuff than others. Check out the videos : https://www.google.com/search?q=linux+mint+cinnamon&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjzu4eQ-8L8AhViAzQIHSZ2D8oQ_AUoAnoECAEQBA&biw=1536&bih=671&dpr=1.25

It Comes with Software as well there is tons of Software available : Open Source : https://alternativeto.net/platform/linux/?license=opensource check free and ....

This is your best option and should consider it after what has been mentioned to you.

This is off topic, the poster wasn't asking advice for Windows 7 and may well already know all he needs to.

Better to understand the users details first than rather to just TELL people what to do out of the gate. 

All the hyperbole risk is ridiculous, I think you should just remove both of these posts.  

Yeah, but just think. When people start dumping perfectly good computers you should be able to get a very good linux capable PC for dirt cheap.

I don't know. It seems like more people are recycling electronics (where they will just get ground up and melted down for scrap metal) instead of throwing them away where people like us can access them. Also, most stuff around me is being recycled because it was physically damaged beyond repair during a domestic abuse episode, but that's just a regional thing.

It's amazing to me that those prices are not in effect now John, the tech community would rather throw them away then to give you a deal on them, at least that has been my experience with the tech community in general, there are exceptions to the rule of course.  But as you will see in this thread your average person isn't smart enough to care how much e-waste is generated.  

 

I see these articles all the time now.  I don't know how anyone will deny this and stand behind their opinion that petitions and such will make no difference?  What we really need are donations to the lawyers to make it so.  I am not looking forwards to the support cost for keeping 10 after 2023 with updates, I'm sure it will be ridiculous.

The petition might get some attention, even though I still think they should be asking to reduce the requirements for Windows 11 (simply extending Windows 10 support will delay the e-waste crisis). 240 million computers losing support for Windows is insane, but it will sure make PC builders money (which was surely the point of this, not for security).

Then think about the people who don't have the money for a new computer burning a hole in their pocket. I've been there, and the "just buy a new one" attitude really angers me. There are too many people trying to tell you to spend money (not just computers - I was just trying to deal with a cheap washing machine, and the "advice" was to spend $2500 on a high-end model), and corporations switch to subscription models like they think everyone has infinite money. People will either keep running Windows 10 without updates or downgrade to one of those terrible sub-$300 laptops with 4GB of soldered RAM (which wasn't enough for basic web browsing five years ago) and tiny eMMC storage because that's all they can afford (and then ask someone like us why it's so slow or just blame Windows 11 when it really isn't noticeably slower than 10 on the same hardware).

As long as the option to bypass the CPU requirement check still works in 2025 (Microsoft keeps changing the procedure, and I wouldn't be surprised if they completely remove that option when Windows 10 support is about to end), that's what I will be doing for people who need Windows-only software. My computers can run Windows 11, but I don't know of anything besides a capture device that doesn't run on Linux (which I've mentioned a few times before - it's just a lack of software that supports non-UVC devices, not a driver problem - the Linux driver is actually better than the Windows 10/11 driver, but I can only capture through command line tools with out-of-sync audio).

As for Pkshadow's comment (I forgot to add it to the multiquote), nobody said that the Windows 7 system was on the Internet.

Edited by lti, 13 January 2024 - 06:48 PM.

 

Yeah, but just think. When people start dumping perfectly good computers you should be able to get a very good linux capable PC for dirt cheap.

I don't know. It seems like more people are recycling electronics (where they will just get ground up and melted down for scrap metal) instead of throwing them away where people like us can access them. Also, most stuff around me is being recycled because it was physically damaged beyond repair during a domestic abuse episode, but that's just a regional thing.

 

It's amazing to me that those prices are not in effect now John, the tech community would rather throw them away then to give you a deal on them, at least that has been my experience with the tech community in general, there are exceptions to the rule of course.  But as you will see in this thread your average person isn't smart enough to care how much e-waste is generated.  

 

I see these articles all the time now.  I don't know how anyone will deny this and stand behind their opinion that petitions and such will make no difference?  What we really need are donations to the lawyers to make it so.  I am not looking forwards to the support cost for keeping 10 after 2023 with updates, I'm sure it will be ridiculous.

The petition might get some attention, even though I still think they should be asking to reduce the requirements for Windows 11 (simply extending Windows 10 support will delay the e-waste crisis). 240 million computers losing support for Windows is insane, but it will sure make PC builders money (which was surely the point of this, not for security).

 

Thanks for adding your opinion

Recycling don't always mean to be crushed or melted for gold.  Most transfer stations sell their junk to people that repurpose it if possible.  Unfortunately there are lots of unscrupulous Tech's out there that will smash a good  computer just so it will not be used again, scumbags!  This world is going to S, because all the idiots that live in it.

Yeah, they should be eliminate the requirements for Windows 11 so we can all freely use it on our current pc's.

What they are doing is criminal but no one cares enough to help fix it.  MS is one of the most Unscrupulous Monopolies in the world, running rampant doing whatever they want because they have so much power with the government.