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#31 CandCLegacy

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Posted 27 July 2022 - 05:11 AM

ok will try it this morning Thanks.



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Posted 27 July 2022 - 07:17 AM

allrighty then;

 

when I am in windows 98 and try to use Fdisk on one of my floppies DOS wont read I get the message "wrong Dos version"

 

when I try to use f Disk in DOS naturally I get Not reading drive a:

 

when I took a floppy that was readable and writeable in DOS 6.2 and over on the windows 98 side. everything is ok. I then took that same floppie and formatted it in DOS6.2 and as soon as it finished formatting it The Not reading Drive A: error comes up.

 

I found a program in windows 98 called "Drive converter" and sure enough it shows two drives C: MS-Dos_6  as FAT16

                                                                                                                                                And  D:                         Already FAT 32

 

So yeah you guys were right my DOS 6.2 is apparently working FAT 16.

 

My question and my original question in these posts is " Why after formatting a disk that was previously readable and useable in it's own enviroment (DOS 6.2) now after formatting IS NO LONGER USEABLE.....Very Puzzling....

 

No light yet.....   



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Posted 27 July 2022 - 08:54 AM

What if you installed DOS 7.1 instead of 6.22? 

 


Edited by JohnC_21, 27 July 2022 - 09:32 AM.


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Posted 27 July 2022 - 11:46 AM

I would give that a shot.



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Posted 27 July 2022 - 10:03 PM

I wonder if the Servo 2 system software will run properly on DOS 7.1? I bought the full OEM version of DOS 6.2  especially because it was recommended by the developers.

 

I do not  have 7.1 might have to consider purchasing an official sealed version like my 6.2 was. Will watch the video though anyway thanks JohnC.

 

Maybe the video has a solution to the situation below?

 

"The latest standalone version of MS-DOS is 6.22. Microsoft Windows 95 and 98 included a version of MS-DOS known as 7.0. MS-DOS 7.0 can be used within Microsoft Windows, but it cannot be purchased as a standalone version."


Edited by CandCLegacy, 27 July 2022 - 10:10 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2022 - 06:48 AM

Read through this thread. DOS 7.1 may not be compatible with very old software.

 

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php?t=72313



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Posted 28 July 2022 - 08:37 AM

See if it'll run in dos mode in windows 98. It already has dos 7.1

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 05:40 PM

Good point crypt. I can see the files of the Servo system in C:\Servo.... so you mean instead of exiting 98 through the dual boot setup just try and open the MS DOS prompt while still IN 98...then query VER to see what it says. 'cause everytime I query "VER" when in the C:\DOS mode I get Ver 4.1..... should be seeing 7.1 according to what every tells me. I had come to the conclusion possibly in error that 4.1 was the version of 98SE it was giving me.... 

 

hopefully get a chance to play with it tonight....

 

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Posted 28 July 2022 - 05:47 PM

You are correct. Windows 98SE is listed as build.4.10.2222 A

 

The ver command gives you the Windows version in Win95 and above.



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Posted 28 July 2022 - 05:47 PM

Reboot to dos mode.

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:12 PM

 
Now we are getting some where.  
 
Here are two screenshots of the DOS Ver Query. One on the FAT 16 partitioned DOS 6.2 side. The second one is Queried on the FAT 32 Partitioned side of the SAME hard disc while  in DOS mode on Windows 98 SE.....
 
While we are on the subject of dual booting again;
 
after I split my c: drive into two partitions why did it not become a separate drive as in D:, I still only have two drives listed on "My computer"
 
a:\ 
c:\
d:\
 
I physically HAVE two drives so should it not show another drive as "E"  ( the split drive being c:\ d:\,)?
 
My original questions : What files are most responsible to be causing errors in DOS 6.2 rendering disks useless after disc copy or formatting. on the very same drive and DOS they were just read and written to on. Single file write read copy work fine.
Attached File  MS98SE DOS.JPG   69.77KB   0 downloads
Is it possible to delete those files and reload those files from my DOS install disks. 
 
The readme files in DOS after the install gives me clues that some files were unable to be properly loaded. It then describes the procedure to fix it....awfully scary to an amateur like me....
 
Where's the darn light?

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Posted 29 July 2022 - 10:16 PM

Boot into windows then shutdown and restart in dos mode from within windows.

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Posted 18 August 2022 - 04:09 PM

You do know that fat32 has a limit of file size and unless the bios supports LBA a 64gig drive would be a waste due to a limitation in drive size.

https://kb.iu.edu/d/aema

A 64 GB drive would be fine on a FAT32 system you can have up to around 127GB drive space not that you'd ever use all of that. A FAT32 64GB drive is more than enough. I have one Windows 98 build that has an 80GB Drive in FAT32 and all space available.  

 

Some older machines have a limit in the BIOS to where your limited on what hard drive capacity you can use on that particular machine but that has nothing to do with the FAT32 file system. 


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Posted 18 August 2022 - 05:05 PM

I quite like MS-DOS.

 

I have a small 486 DX desktop machine set up on the kitchen table. I had installed MS DOS 6.22 & Windows 3.11 although I may just use it as a pure DOS machine without Windows.

 

I'll download the MS DOS tools from phils computer lab and have a play with it tomorrow. I don't have any sound card for it at the moment or a graphics card I'm using the onboard VGA which is ok for basic MS-DOS stuff for now.

 

I would love to find something that can run the BBC Basic programming language in DOS. 



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Posted 07 November 2022 - 09:09 PM

Hi!

After probably 50 hours of work time i managed to get my setup stabile enough to work for old audio production workflow, mostly as a sequencer.

C2D e6300@3.3

2GB ram

P5kPL-AM EPU
IDE and SATA disks

VBE uni driver for integrated Intel Gpu

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ICH7 chipset, managed to make everything work, system is on a SATA disk, i use 2 gigs of ram. Memory and sata are patched, everything is beefed up with kernelex which means stuff that works on Xp actually work on W98 SE.

I tried running s370 copper with 1.2Ghz and a 256MB ram, drivers were all clean, but too slow.

I made like 15 recovery images using Aomei and battled my way thru to the one working setup which works solid with my audio interface, which is the most important thing.



 






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