Will these few desktop computer internal hardware components make a good build?

My dad (80) is upgrading his desktop computer with a few new internal hardware components.
 
These are as follows:
 
MOBO LGA1700: ASUS TUF GAMING Z790 PLUS WIFI
PSU: Cooler Master V850 SFX Gold 850W PSU
Case: Lian Li O11 Dynamic Mini Black Cabinet Miditower
RAM DDR5: Corsair VENGEANCE® RGB 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 DRAM 6200MT/s CL36 Memory Kit White
OS: Microsoft Windows 11 Professional 64-bit Retail
CPU: Intel® Core i9-13900K Processor 36M Cache, up to 5.80 GHz
 
He is reusing his GPU and M.2 SSD internal storage devices but might have to replace the GPU if it does not fit.
 
He is still in the building process while waiting for the rest of the components to arrive at the post office.
 
I am trying to help him select compatible components, but hardware is not exactly my strongest suit.
 
Hence, my question is: Will these few desktop computer internal hardware components make a good build?
 
Thank you very much in advance!

Edited by midimusicman79, 28 December 2023 - 04:24 AM.

Hello and how goes?

 

Your Part List looks OK.

 

 

The VGA Length for the Lian Li is specified as 370mm. Maybe the current card fits, without actually knowing what it is to begin with.

 

But... if changing the GPU for a newer Nvidia 4xxx series then it may need the PSU with the 12VHPWR cable.  A different type of PSU altogether. Just saying that knowing exactly what card is being  used does determine the PSU type.

However  if re-using the older GPU or using any of the newest AMD or Intel GPUs, then this PSU current PCI-e cables will be perfectly OK. 

 

Also the CPU cooler and extra case fans will be needed -  not listed. 

And why the Intel i9? Is this really needed instead of using a i5-13600K? And of course why choose Intel and not AMD?

Edited by 0lds0d, 23 December 2023 - 04:22 PM.

They will work together but whether they are the best fit, without knowing his usage it's hard to say.  As mentioned already the i9 needs a very good cooling system (e.g. a 360mm AIO liquid cooler) and would be overkill (IMO) for many users.  It is possible to adjust power limits and/or undervolt to keep it more in check, but as standard these CPU's can draw close to 300w with multi-core workloads, which will mean a lot of heat to deal with.

Edited by jonuk76, 23 December 2023 - 08:58 PM.

Hi, The Spec Page for the i9-13900K Max Ram Speed to be Compatible should be : Up to DDR5 5600 MT/s, or a little lower if going to be using XMP and in Power Scheme : Fast or what ever the board calls it as some can go faster then the usual 3 settings seen, If your going to be overclocking and are experienced would suggest travel into the overclocking forums for their thoughts especially on 1st boot if building it yourself.

 

I would suggest also to check the ASUS Support Page under the CP/Memory Heading Other Parts to check  to see what has been tested with the board.  The Board was released more less 1st BIOS Release - Nov 2022 so is already a year old out of 5yr Support for the Board.

 

You could also plug the parts into Pcpartspicker and see what they have to say regarding your parts and any compatibility issues. 

Hi, I took the time to put these into PC Partpicker and chose what I think is a suitable CPU cooler and some fans.

 

 

As you're using a mini case with an ATX motherboard, there are some restrictions e.g. you can't top mount a 360mm AIO radiator.  I'm lead to believe a bottom mounted AIO cooler is a bad idea due to this putting more load on the water pump to fight gravity, so I'm thinking the best solution is a side mounted 280mm rad, and the Arctic is a good one IMO.   See diagrams at - https://lian-li.com/product/o11-dynamic-mini/ for more information (you'll need the "7 slot" backplate/configuration for a full ATX board).  As you've gone for RGB memory, I've assumed he likes a light show so chose RGB versions of fans - non-RGB are available!  I'm not totally sure on whether a separate RGB controller is needed for all these, but if so it can be added easily enough and the controller box can be fixed somewhere convenient with tape etc. if necessary.

 

I imagine using 3 x 120mm fans in the bottom (drawing in), two x 140mm at the top (blowing out) will provide good airflow across the motherboard.  There may well be a restriction on max GPU length with a large radiator mounted adjacent to the motherboard.

 

There are no warnings regarding memory etc. from PCPartpicker, and I personally doubt there'll be any problems from the memory chosen.  Incidentally if you/he are not keen on the water cooling route, you could still make it work with a very good air cooler.  This article shows effects of setting lower power limits on temperatures and power consumption on the i9-14900K (it will be basically the same for the 13900K). https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i9-14900k-raptor-lake-tested-at-power-limits-down-to-35-w/9.html  By restricting power limits you can drastically lower cooling requirements, while having a tiny effect on gaming performance, and a fairly small effect on application performance.  It's worth a read through anyway.

I would really like to apologize for the late reply, but Thank you very much, 0lds0d, jonuk76, and Pkshadow!

 

As it happens, interestingly, the CPU Fan is a Noctua NH-L9i-17xx L-Type Low-Profile Cooler, a New Version for Intel LGA1700.

 

The GPU is an old and basic MSI Aero NVIDIA ARMOR GAMING Series PCI GPU with one fan.

 

Sorry, but we are unsure about the model number of the GPU, but it is compatible with Windows 7 and newer, an OS officially released in 2009.

 

However, to determine the above, my dad would have had to temporarily remove the GPU, but he said he would not do that.

 

We could alternatively have used TechPowerUp GPU-Z, but unfortunately, upon changing a case fan, his computer will not boot, so we cannot do that.

 

I have told my dad about your advice, but he will likely have to wait until January before he gets the case before finalizing the build.

That Noctua CPU cooler is very inadequate for the Intel Core i9.

It is probably intended for a ITX board or SFF type of desktop.

The i9 uses lots of power and gives off lots of heat.

 

jonuk76 suggested the  280mm AIO Artic Cooler for a very good reason - it is able to handle the heat coming from that i9.

 

If wanting an air cooler, then maybe something like the Noctua NH-D15 is adequate for the i9. But an AIO is a better choice for cooling an i9.

 

added link for Noctua https://noctua.at/en/nh-d15

 

and yes the cooler fit - it's 165mm with the fan, and the Lian Li allows for up to 170mm CPU coolers.

 

Also the Dynamic Mini is really designed for custom  water cooling (or for just an AIO), even though it can be used for air cooled CPUs, it wouldn't be the first choice for a air cooled CPU type of case. There are better cases and choices for air cooling.

 

 But still, why the i9? What is being used that requires one the most powerful Intel desktop CPU? Some type of commercial or professional work on a daily basis?

 

An i9 isn't used or even needed for regular home users or even for almost all of the hard core gamers or even for light/occasional work at home. An i5 would be more suitable for this type of scenario.

Strongly suggest to get an Intel Core i5-13600K and it is very powerful (and in many situations it is still over kill for most usages) and uses less power and creates less heat. And is cheaper to buy and it will save on the monthly electric bill.

Edited by 0lds0d, 24 December 2023 - 03:17 PM.

I would really like to apologize for the late reply, but Thank you very much, 0lds0d!

 

My dad purchased 3 x 120mm Lian Li extra case fans, and the rationale for buying an Intel® Core™ i9-13900K CPU is this:

 

A few months ago, he acquired a refurbished military-grade DELL laptop computer with an Intel® Core™ i9-8XXX Series CPU (unsure of which exact model and CPU speed).

 

As such, he wants his desktop computer also to have a fast Intel® Core™ i9 CPU.

 

My dad is a retired agricultural supervisor and a professional cartographer, and he mainly uses his computers for these purposes:

 

Advanced digital scaled vector graphics (SVG) and raster image maps software, such as QGIS.

 

Additionally, GPS mapping software for trip planning and real-time tracking of GPS position, such as OziExplorer.

 

Besides, he streams a lot of internet television for several hours every day from Norwegian Broadcasting.

 

My dad and I are both Intel enthusiasts, and we have already been using THAT CPU brand for almost 30 years, so we will NOT switch to AMD.

That's fine, but I recommend in the strongest terms using a better cooler than that low profile Noctua.

 

For info, the only 8th Gen i9 processor I can find is the laptop i9-8950HK.  Any of the 13th gen desktop CPU's will be a lot faster than this - https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3246vs5008vs5022/Intel-i9-8950HK-vs-Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i9-13900K 

@midimusicman79

 

I looked at your list of critical programs you have stated.

As far as I can tell, none of these require a powerful CPU and none require any type of advanced graphic.

As for streaming TV on the desktop, again anything will do - even an Intel Core i3 will be adequate for streaming. 

An i5 will easily do these requirements and still have lots of power to spare.

 

Best advice is replace the i9 with an i5 - as the i5 has lower power demand, lower heat output (easier to cool) and at the moment the i5-13600k is roughly half the price of the i9, so it is cheaper to buy (in  North America ATM).

(The money then saved on buying the i5 instead of the i9 could then be used to buy a new graphic card, instead of reusing the older card. )

( And because both you and your Father are both firm Intel users, for the last 30 years, you could get a new Intel graphic card to go along with the Intel CPU )

(see https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/227954/intel-arc-a750-graphics/specifications.html )

 

Something to consider about lowering the CPU requirements for the i9 to an i5.

If still unsure about the i5, then consider the i7

 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/5008vs5022vs5060/Intel-i5-13600K-vs-Intel-i9-13900K-vs-Intel-i7-13700K

 

but the i5 will be more than adequate for your father's new desktop.

And the Intel CPUs over the last past years have improved in performance by leaps and bounds since the 8xxx series - the 13xxx and 14xxx are very powerful indeed.

Edited by 0lds0d, 26 December 2023 - 03:02 AM.

I would really like to apologize for the late reply, but Thank you very much, jonuk76 and 0lds0d!

 

My dad first purchased the said DELL laptop computer and continued to use his Intel® Core™ i7-8700 CPU desktop computer.

 

It had an ASUS ROG MAXIMUS X HERO motherboard for several years, and recently, he switched to streaming on the laptop.

 

Because the laptop likely has a 4K screen resolution, he preferred that over the desktop computer's 2560 x 1440 screen resolution.

 

Upon the desktop computer's mentioned booting issue after changing a case fan, he was forced to stop using the desktop in favor of the laptop.

 

The above events caused him to gradually get used to the laptop's likely Intel® Core™ i9-8950HK Laptop CPU.

 

My dad bought a be quiet! Pure Rock Slim 2 CPU cooler for LGA 1700, and I would like to ask you for your opinion on it.

 

Because the laptop likely has a 4K screen resolution, he preferred that over the desktop computer's 2560 x 1440 screen resolution.

Same GPU, Same monitor = same resolution no matter the processor.

That cooler...  er, no. To light for the i9. It is OK for the i5 or maybe an i7. 

 

This one - made for the Intel i9...the Dark Rock Pro...

 

https://www.bequiet.com/en/cpucooler/4466

Edited by 0lds0d, 26 December 2023 - 04:51 PM.

I hope he can 'barely squeak by' in his needs with 'only' a 13900K, a Z790, and 'only' 64 GB of  DDR5 ...

 

<severe eye-roll!> 

 

I would really like to apologize for the late reply, but Thank you, Porthos, 0lds0d, and MDD1963!

 

However, it is NEITHER the same monitor NOR the same GPU because the monitor on my dad's DELL laptop is 17 inches. And it likely has a 4K resolution of 3840 x 2160.

 

The monitor on my dad's desktop computer is 24 inches and has a Quad HD or Wide Quad HD resolution of 2560 x 1440. As such, the resolution differs between the computers.

 

My dad NEITHER overclocks his desktop or laptop computer NOR does he use them for any resource-intensive software, so he seldom uses the CPU's turbo and never its overclocking speeds.

 

Accordingly, he seems inclined to buy some basic CPU coolers, but I try to encourage him to purchase a premium CPU cooler that can also handle the CPU's turbo and overclocking.

 

Examples of premium CPU coolers are the Noctua NH-D15 or the be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 5.

 

My dad bought an MSI GeForce RTX™ 3050 GAMING X 8G GPU, and I would like to ask you for your opinion on it.